HearPeers Heroes Mary Beth Posted February 23, 2021 HearPeers Heroes Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 Since AudioStream only works on phones/tablets, it can not stream audio from our laptop/desktop computers during video meetings. But, we can choose to join the video meeting on our laptop/desktop and call in for audio on our phones. This would let us use AudioStream during those video meetings. We just need to place our phone on the table in front of us do it can pick up our voice for others. Has anyone tried this? Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 I couldn't try this till now as I am still awaiting my instance of AudioStream. Nevertheless. On a Mac you can use Airfoil + Airfoil Satellite to route your audio to a smartphone that is compatible with AudioStream. There has been a version for Windows, too, but that's no longe supported. On Linux you can use vlc/cvlc to grab audio output (from pulseaudio) and provide an integrated http-server that delivers a transcoded audio-stream to any webbrowser. With your smartphone you can then open a webbrowser to stream from your PC and listen with Med-EL's AudioStream. This of course works for any MFi or ASHA capable device. Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-39434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearPeers Heroes Mary Beth Posted February 25, 2021 Author HearPeers Heroes Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 @Dani I hope you get your AudioStream soon so you can test this out and report back! airfoil and airfoil satellite info can be found here for anyone else who is curious https://rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/satellite/ios/ Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-39436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Charney Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 @John RI can't remember but have you used the ARtone and if so how does it compare to the AudioLink for you when you are rehabbing ? thanks! Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-39666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Charney Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 @Mary BethI know you don't use AudioLink but my question is this: do you hear a lot of static with the Artone? Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-39668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearPeers Heroes Mary Beth Posted March 9, 2021 Author HearPeers Heroes Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 @Jared Charney I have the AudioLink but you are correct that I choose not to use it as it is not the best streaming option for me. The Artone, which I do use everyday, is a much better match for me. I do not hear static when streaming from the Artone. Jared Charney 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-39670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 @Mary Beth and @Jared Charney Never tried the Artone, I will ask my Audi or MED-EL to get me one to trial. Right now I use the Roger Select its great. I also have the Roger Pen, its better than the AudioLink also has the phone integration to both my HA and CI, and streams all at once that's cool, but for pure streaming the Select sounds best Jared Charney 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-39677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearPeers Heroes Mary Beth Posted March 10, 2021 Author HearPeers Heroes Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 @John R Since you prefer the Select, have you tried using it’s BT feature for your phone? It has the same BT ability as the Roger Pen. Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-39678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 Yes I have but its not as convenient as the clip on pen from your shirt collar when out and about Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-39679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearPeers Heroes Mary Beth Posted March 10, 2021 Author HearPeers Heroes Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 @John R I have had good luck with the Select’s magnetic clip on my shirt. I am glad you are figuring out which connectivity tech helps you in various situations. I think I am more of a one connectivity device kind of user. One device to charge. Only one device to pair to my phone, etc. Only one device to bring along if I choose. Except for streaming, I do not use any devices. Just put on my processors and go about my day. I stay in one program and do not change the volume/sensitivity settings. But tech interests me and I like to test out various tech options to best be able to help others who like using various tech in their daily lives. And tech changes so rapidly. Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-39686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 Regarding the original post, I have joined many video calls with both my phone and computer and used AudioStream for audio to/from the phone, and (as backup) I have my over-the-ear headphones connected to the computer. This give me the big screen + keyboard advantage of the computer with the AudioStream capability. You might lose the video conference feature where it shows your camera feed to everyone when you talk though. Unless you're running the camera from the phone. Another option (for Mac) is the app "Airfoil" and the companion app for iPhone "Satellite" by Rogue Amoeba software. This enables streaming whatever audio is playing on your Mac to you iPhone. But there is a slight delay 😞 FWIW, the AudioStream can't pair with the Mac because the Mac doesn't support connecting to these types of hearing aids. It is not MED-EL's lack of support. Other such hearing aids have the same limitation. Note: If you have feature requests or find bugs, Apple takes input from customers! Goto https://feedbackassistant.apple.com/ or launch the "Feedback Assistant" app on Mac or iOS and give your feedback or make your request. You'd think it'd never make a difference, but Apple is *very efficient* at routing customer feedback to the appropriate people, and those people are passionate about making their customers happy. Also, duplicate requests for the same feature/bug go a long way to increasing the priority of issues. I've made the request to find a way to support hearing devices on Mac, we'll see how it goes. Mary Beth and John R 2 Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-39697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearPeers Heroes Mary Beth Posted March 10, 2021 Author HearPeers Heroes Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 @Justin We are a happy Apple household. I followed your link to request Mac support for hearing devices but I end up at this screen. Which should I select? Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-39698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 Oh, interesting. That's for developers... I thought we had a direct channel. What I see is different, because I guess I'm still registered as an external developer. Let me look. Mary Beth 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-39700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 OK. "Regular" customers can use this page, and click into the most relevant product (ex: MacBook Pro would probably also apply to all Macs and MacOS). https://www.apple.com/feedback/ If you want more clout, do sign on to the Beta Software program, run the latest software, make sure Apple didn't already add your feature/solve you bug, and if not, then submit feedback using the Feedback Assistant. FWIW, that Feedback Assistant pipes directly into Apple's issue tracking process - submissions will get noticed. Also, Apple's Beta software is very well vetted before it is "seeded" to beta testers. The period when major releases are being seeded (historically from July to September, but I promise/insinuate nothing) will be the most volatile/risky. The rest of the year, the beta software is minimally different from the final releases. There is a teeny risk you are impacted by an issue... If you care about something enough to have Apple change it, it is well worth the effort to make your voice heard! (And FWIW, I think the same is likely true for MED-EL and Google and Android device manufacturers. They all rely on customer feedback.) Mary Beth 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-39703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerThat Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 For those on Windows and Android, give this a try. It works really well for me. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vnd.wifi_audio The desktop application simply reroutes the audio and streams it over wifi to your AudioStream paired phone. Just be sure to check High Quality audio mode on the desktop app. Mary Beth 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-45893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertmur Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 Have you ever tried to get a new Bluetooth 5.0 USB Adapter and use and pair it with Audiostream? I believe that it would work with Audistream on laptops and on smart TV after plugging BT 5.0 USB Adapter on, because Audiostream has a Bluetooth 5.0 built in and does not get on well with the devices which have Bluetooth 2.4 built in... Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-45922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertmur Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-45923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearPeers Heroes Mary Beth Posted January 4, 2022 Author HearPeers Heroes Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 @mertmur Interesting. I thought AudioStream uses BTLE? Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-45926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertmur Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) That's right! BTLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) is 5.0 already and new tech. BT is currently 2.4/4.0 , but BTLE is 5.0. So, unfortunately , the two BTs do not know their languages, smile))) Edited January 4, 2022 by mertmur BT might be also 4.0 Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-45927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertmur Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 In order to connect and pair Audiostream with devices - we have to get a new 5.0 BT USB Adapter to plug in...we cannot re-place 5.0 BTLE built into old hearing aids. So, better to get a new hearing aid which has built in 5.0 BTLE or...Artone Neckloop is still best option for CI and the other old HA...and if you have a new HA (built in 5.0 BTLE), then, audiostream will bimodally stream to CI and new HA. That's my opinion. Best regards! Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-45928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerThat Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 Bluetooth by design is backwards compatible. Any BT 5.0 will have no problem communicating with any previous versions including the legacy classic Bluetooth (think legacy flip phones from the 2000s). The recent Bluetooth Low Energy (BTLE) versions (4.0 - 4.2, 5.0) just offers better range, power consumption, among other features but still remains to be backwards compatible. The main issue is in pairing with the AudioStream. I don't know enough on exactly how the AudioKey2 sets up the AudioStream but there's currently no way for the laptops to pair with it. It's a software issue. Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-45929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearPeers Heroes Mary Beth Posted January 4, 2022 Author HearPeers Heroes Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 I believe bimodally streaming to a HA and Sonnet/Sonnet2 with AudioStream simultaneously is limited to some android phones and a few HA models at this time. Med-El has a list of compatible phones and HAs. I do not think bimodal streaming is available yet for iPhones. Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-45932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnetteT Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 On 3/10/2021 at 12:10 PM, Justin said: OK. "Regular" customers can use this page, and click into the most relevant product (ex: MacBook Pro would probably also apply to all Macs and MacOS). https://www.apple.com/feedback/ I just sent in a feature request. thanks for the link! Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-47371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdyArt Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 Hi @RogerThat and @Mary Beth! I have Sonnet with AudioStream and trying to make it work with my Windows 11 laptop. Problem is that if I try audio relaying apps like Airfoil it fails as I have Windows laptop and iPhone. When connecting directly it connected once, but since that time it doesn't connects anymore. Maybe I can install AudioKey2 on my PC with Android emulator and try to set it up? Do you have any news regarding how to make laptop -> AudioStream work? Thanks Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-50051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearPeers Heroes Mary Beth Posted June 1, 2022 Author HearPeers Heroes Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 @Enegra Did you mention that you found a way to use AudioStream with a computer? Quote Link to comment https://forum.hearpeers.com/topic/6495-using-audiostream-with-laptopdesktop-computers-for-video-calls/#findComment-50055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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